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IT HR in Ukraine... ’:(

As an Expat With approximately 20 years of experience in Sales, negotiations, organizational management and business administration, I have to say the IT HR community in most Kiev IT companies is totally inept by western standards. Their vacancy announcements are formulaic and boilerplate. They cant even discern education from experience and skill set. I’ve interviewed at many companies and have walked out before the interview, because of the “luring” most HR Departments do, which is continuing to interview candidates even after another has been chosen. The administrative capabilities must be organizationally enhanced and standardized, lest your company fail due to lack of qualified candidates to finish the projects and contracts that you currently have.

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Я знал что кто-то из мартелов выжил!

By western you mean anglosphere countries? Cause most recrtuiters outside from US, UK and Ireland are completely inadequate to what high skilled professionals could expect from them. Also, our IT industry employment is run on paralegal basis of “private entrepreneur” scheme thus exempt from any regulations.

Такий великий,

20 years of experience in Sales, negotiations, organizational management and business administration

а не вміє проходити хрюшофільтри на ізі-моді.

Щось тут не те.

Рекрутери та HR при деякому досвіді сприймаються як секуріті-чек в аеропорті. Коли вже розумний то відразу кладеш ремінь та годинник у багаж і проходиш все за пару хвилин, в той час коли інші пасажири витрачають купу часу щоб зняти з себе увесь метал.

Хрюша-фільтри на ізі проходяться для типових професій, дешевих в отриманні освіти. Що більша кваліфікація потрібна, то більше гарантія що хрюша-фільтр відсіє саме потрібних спеціалістів. Бо вища кваліфікація означає вищий розподіл праці, і значно менше знань з категорії «булщит який ніколи не використовується але написаний в книжках із красивою обкладинкою».

Коли вже розумний то відразу кладеш ремінь та годинник у багаж і проходиш все за пару хвилин

Не забуваючи притримувати штани щоб не спадали ;)

The usual response at the end of the most recent interview was "your experience is impressive, but we’re looking for someone younger"....it has been my experience for the last 4 interviews. Most just tell me the same thing by email.

At least you got fair feedback with their motivation. Would you prefer not so discriminating yet non conveying the real reasons, so common in EU / US: sorry, your profile is not matching our current needs. Or formal “you’re overqualified for this position”?
... or simply to give you no feedback at all. Well, then your feelings about their reasons won’t be impacted that much... but does it really help? :)

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Man... while i agree with you that 90% of Recruitment specialists aren’t showing high level of professionalism in Ukraine (BTW, HR supposed to be about the different work, but that’s the sacred knowledge known to even less amount of people), but as an Expat outside Ukraine having an experience of interactions with European HRs I should admit the fact that situation in Ukraine is not unique.
And European HR’s are having a lot of similar problems and non-professional behavior. Some list of what I was exposed to in Europe (btw list is far away from being comprehensive)
— not giving any feedbacks even after few direct followups or escalations to their supervisors (with promises of those that their subordinary will sure give it this time) — common to everyone.
— not having a professional sense to give a call in the middle of the day and start bombarding you with his offer, ignoring your pleads that you can’t even talk right now (in few cases I just dropped the call dureing their one-sided speech. Even robo-caller could be more human). Espicailly common to LN hiring agencies.
— Not responding for sent CV for months (almost whole EU)
— “Hints game” instead of proper JD (actually common trends in recent months. Were there some HR/recruiters conference which taught that? They all have switched to this mode recently)
I can move on.

Having said that, the point is — it’s not about Ukrainian HR/recruiters. I think it’s an inevitable disease of this profession :)

as an Expat outside Ukraine having an experience of interactions with European HRs I should admit the fact that situation in Ukraine is not unique

+1

HR in Ukraine is not a science, not a profession. HR here is a religion. They do some crazy rituals, and believe the miracle would come if follow them as stupid as possible, with mad [empty] head optimism.

Don’t ask “why”. Why manages hire big boobs you can guess. Don’t ask why they give em the real work to do.

The usual response at the end of the most recent interview was "your experience is impressive, but we’re looking for someone younger"....it has been my experience for the last 4 interviews. Most just tell me the same thing by email.

It’s much easier to BS younger people. Its almost impossible to offer the benefit of having a gaming console in the office instead of salary to someone of your age.

Это мы знаем и без Браяна :))

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